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I took the GMAT on 12/23 and got a 710, 44q/44v/6 AWA. A friend of mine happened to take the test 6 days later and get the exact same quant/verbal scaled scores but he got a 720. I've been searching everywhere to understand how this could happen and haven't been able to figure it out. It seems to me that the same scaled scores, within a week of each other, would result in the same overall score.

Has anyone seen this before? Can anyone shed any light on how this might happen? I have seen a few other people on beatthegmat who have received 720s with the 44/44 scaled breakdown back in October. I have also seen 44/45 scores that translated to 720. The percentile breakdowns for each of our scores (70th % Q, 97th% V) were exactly the same for both us us as well. I asked my MGMAT instructor (great course by the way) and she thought it was very strange as well. If we took the test a few years apart I would think that the range had changed as more people took the test, but I can't imagine that 6 days over the Christmas holiday would change the 3 year averages significantly enough to result in a different overall score.

I have called the GMAT customer service line twice now and both times, after explaining my situation and waiting on hold for about 20 minutes, I got the same response "we can't discuss the scoring, please email [email protected]. To me this sounds like a blackhole@ email address and I expect the response via email to be the same.

Someone suggested that the GMAT must have an ombudsperson to oversee this kind of thing but I don't know how to breach the customer service shield to get a response. I know they can't give me the scoring algorithm, but they don't even say "this can happen, it's normal, it is because xyz, etc" which makes it seem all the more fishy.

I can't complain too much but who wouldn't want the extra 10 points right? :)

Thanks for your help!

Here's a recap of my test prep:

Took Manhattan GMAT course, studied the MGMAT, OG, OG verbal, and OG quant books that came with the course. I did a few practice questions from a kaplan book as well but not many.

My diagnostic score was 530, mostly due to a terrible quant score.
I took 6 MGMAT Cat exams ranging from 650 to 700 on the last one about 2 weeks before the test. I knew that quant was the area I needed the most work on so I focused my studying almost entirely on re-learning the necessary math and familiarizing myself with the data sufficiency question type (which gave me lots of trouble). Strangely, as my quant scores increased quite a bit, my verbal scores actually went down through the first couple of exams.

With about 3 weeks to go I started to add verbal concepts to my study regimen and my scores began to improve.

I took the two practice tests from mba.com leading up to the test, getting 690 (44Q,42V I think this was the breakdown but don't remember exactly) on the first and 720 (48Q,40V) on the second. Throughout my preparation I always ran out of time on the quant section until the last practice test. I was hoping it was due to my warm-up regimen of quant problems and that I could recreate the same on the actual exam but unfortunately I still ended up moving more quickly through the last couple of questions than I would have liked.

I did feel more confident, and seemed to do better, on the quant sections when I had done a number of practice problems before hand. For this reason, I scheduled an afternoon test and did some problems in the morning ahead of the test. The sense of confidence may have been more of the cause than the actual problems, but either way that was my approach.

Hopefully that helps people who are getting ready for the test. If anyone knows anything about how my friend and I could have gotten different scores I would love to hear about it.

Thanks and good luck to everyone.

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by Ian Stewart » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:34 am
I've seen this a few times (identical scaled scores producing slightly different total scores), and I suspect it may occur because of the following:

-as you proceed through, say, the Quant section of the test, the difficultly level of questions is measured not on the 200-800, nor on the 6-51 scale of the scaled scores. Instead question difficulty is measured in standard deviations; a question of difficulty level 1.82, for example, is 1.82 standard deviations harder than the average question, meaning that it's only answered reasonably well by GMAT test takers who are 1.82 standard deviations above mean ability level. In this way, people and questions are measured on the same scale by the test; as you proceed through the Quant section, the test is updating a score estimate which is measured in standard deviations, based on which level of question you appear able to answer easily and which level you do not appear able to answer. When you finish each section of the test, the test will then have a score for you that is some small numerical value (positive or negative), between, in most cases, -2.5 and 2.5 (unless you are off the charts good or bad). This score is then translated to the familiar 6-51 scale used on the score report.

The point is that two 44's in Verbal might not be equal - the underlying score is a long decimal. Inventing numbers, you might, for example, have had a 1.93 as your score, in standard deviations, and your friend could have a 1.98, and each of these might have produced a 44 Verbal score. Of course, if the test uses the underlying decimal value when computing the Total score on the 800 scale, identical scaled scores could produce slightly different Total scores.

This is just a long way of saying, what you're seeing might be rounding error: the GMAT might be using more precise values than your Quant and Verbal scaled scores when computing the Total score, and naturally you'd expect someone with a 44.4Q/44.4V to get a slightly higher Total Score than someone with a 43.6Q/43.6V. I have no way of knowing whether this is what is actually happening here, but it's the only explanation I've come up with that makes sense to me.
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Raw Score Vs Scaled Score

by bbaah » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:01 am
Based on my experience with the paper based tests, I could see how two people with the same scaled, section scores, could end up with different overall scores.

The scale score is obtained from a chart using your raw score. Raw scores of 42 and 43 on the quant section could convert to the same scaled score of say 44. Similarly, raw scores of 45 and 46 on the verbal could convert to a scaled of say 44. When it comes to calculating the overall score, the person getting raw scores of Q43,V46 could end up scoring as much as 20 pts higher than the person getting raw scores of Q42,V45, even though they both had the same scaled verbal and quant scores (Q44, V44).

I'm not sure exactly how pearson's algorithm determines overall scores, but I think the rationale should not be too different from what ETS used on the paper tests.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks for your response

by confusedtester » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:05 am
Thanks Ian,

I had no idea there was yet a third invisible number being used to calculate the scores. Your explanation certainly makes sense, although I don't see why GMAC wouldn't include this information in their explanation of the scoring. I can't see how it would betray any vital secrets to share this with test takers.

Anyway, thanks again.

Is anyone else familiar with what Ian described?

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by pkw209 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:15 pm
Confused,

I, too, am confused as I have just encountered a similar situation. Were you ever able to receive a sufficient answer?

Ian's response does make sense, but that doesn't make it right in the eyes of the person who got the shorter end of the stick. Ultimately you're right--10 points isn't going to help or hurt you much but in my case, I would love to hit the 700 as opposed to the 690.

Thanks for starting this post!