Welcome to Beat The GMAT, the world's largest GMAT & MBA forum. Please join our rich community of friendly members. Get free help from
experts who teach at the leading GMAT & MBA prep companies — Kaplan, Veritas Prep, Manhattan GMAT and Stacy Blackman Consulting.

Announcement: Apply for the Beat The GMAT/Veritas Prep MBA Fast Track Scholarship, featuring $20,000 in prizes.

Working together rates ...


 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Beat The GMAT Forum Index -> GMAT Math -> Data Sufficiency
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
II
GMAT Destroyer!


Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Posts: 358

Thanks given: 10
Thanked 11 times in 8 posts

Location: London, UK
Test Date: Sept/Oct 2008
Target GMAT Score: 700
GMAT Score: 580

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Working together rates ... Reply with quote

Hi would be interested to see the approaches in solving this one ... especially in dealing with statement 2.

Thanks in advance.

This post contains an attachment. You must be logged in to download/view this file.
Please login or register as a user.

Back to top


View user's profile Send private message
Stuart Kovinsky
GMAT Instructor


Joined: 08 Jan 2008
Posts: 1085

Thanks given: 0
Thanked 160 times in 148 posts

Location: Toronto
GMAT Score: 800

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's jot down the relevant formula:

Combined time (Y&M) = Y*M/(Y+M)

We know that Y=1/2(M), so:

Combined time (Y&M) = 1/2(M^2)/(1.5M)

So, if we can determine the individual time of either Y or M, we can answer the question.

(1) Y=3... exactly what we want, sufficient!

(2) Combined Tme (Y&M) = 1/3(M)

This might seem useful, but it actually tells us what we already knew!

Let's take our original equation a few steps further:

Combined time (Y&M) = 1/2(M^2)/(1.5M)

Combined time (Y&M) = (.5)/(1.5) * M^2/M

Combined time (Y&M) = 1/3 * M

So, we already knew the relationship described in statement 2 - therefore, it's completely useless.

(1) is sufficient, (2) isn't: choose (A).

As an aside, if you ever determine that a statement is completely useless, you can eliminate one more choice than usual.

Normally, if (2) is insufficient, we eliminate (b) and (d).

However, if (2) is completely worthless, then we can also eliminate (c), since there's no way that:

an insufficient statement + a worthless statement = sufficiency.

_________________
Stuart Kovinsky, B.A. LL.B.
Academic Co-ordinator
Kaplan Test Prep & Admissions
Toronto Office
1-800-KAP-TEST

Learn more about me
Back to top


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
II
GMAT Destroyer!


Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Posts: 358

Thanks given: 10
Thanked 11 times in 8 posts

Location: London, UK
Test Date: Sept/Oct 2008
Target GMAT Score: 700
GMAT Score: 580

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick response Stuart.

I am just trying to get my head around the following:

Combined time (Y&M) = Y*M/(Y+M)

We know that Y=1/2(M), so:

Combined time (Y&M) = 1/2(M^2)/(1.5M)

Can you please elaborate ?

Thanks again !
Back to top


View user's profile Send private message
Stuart Kovinsky
GMAT Instructor


Joined: 08 Jan 2008
Posts: 1085

Thanks given: 0
Thanked 160 times in 148 posts

Location: Toronto
GMAT Score: 800

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

II wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Stuart.

I am just trying to get my head around the following:

Combined time (Y&M) = Y*M/(Y+M)

We know that Y=1/2(M), so:

Combined time (Y&M) = 1/2(M^2)/(1.5M)

Can you please elaborate ?

Thanks again !


There are two formulae we can use for work problems.

First, there's the generic formula:

1/(combined time) = 1/x + 1/y + 1/z + ....

in which x, y, z and so on are the times of individual workers.

With exactly two workers, we can rearrange the formula to:

Combined Time of X&Y = x*y/(x+y),

which is a much easier formula to use on most work problems on the GMAT.

For example, if we know that x can finish a job in 4 hours and y can finish the same job in 5 hours, then we would calculate:

Combined time of X&Y = 4*5/(4+5) = 20/9 = 2 & 2/9 hours.

So, in the question you posted, if we call Y's individual time "y" and M's individual time "m",

Combined time of Y&M = y*m/(y+m)

and, since we know that y=(1/2)m, we can simply substitute in for y to get:

Comb Time (Y&M) = (1/2)m*m/(1/2m + m) = .5(m^2)/1.5(m)

_________________
Stuart Kovinsky, B.A. LL.B.
Academic Co-ordinator
Kaplan Test Prep & Admissions
Toronto Office
1-800-KAP-TEST

Learn more about me
Back to top


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Beat The GMAT Forum Index -> GMAT Math -> Data Sufficiency All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



"GMAT" and other GMAC™ trademarks are registered trademarks of the Graduate Management Admission Council™. The Graduate Management Admission Council™ does not endorse, nor is it affiliated in any way with the owner or any content on this website. The opinions expressed here are solely those of the author or those of the members of this website. Copyright © 2008 BTG Test Prep, LLC. Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group.